Wine, Wall & Dragons - Season 8, episode 6 podcast

Game of Thrones Season 8 

Wine, Wall & Dragons Season 8 Episode 6 - the Series Finale 

the recurring line of the night was some variation of - they don’t get to choose, she doesn’t get to choose, etc. — in some ways i think that’s appropriate to all the people filing petitions about re-doing Season 8 to HBO. The fans we don’t get to choose. We get to watch.

Tyrion Finds Jamies and Cersei and cries about it 

Dany gives Fascist dictator speech in either Dothraki or Valayrian or in Unsullied/Astapor language. We get it. She’s a menace now. 

Why doesn’t Dany kill Tyrion as soon as he throws away his “hand pin”? 

Arya “Jon you’re a threat to her, you’ll always be a threat to her. I know a killer when I see one”.

Between Tyrion and Arya - Jon’s getting a lot of negative feedback on his Aunt/Paramour/Queen. “love is the death of duty, duty is the death of love”, Aemon Targaryen.  

Dany walking up to the Throne, which is so similar to what I think was a dream sequence in like season 2 or so — pretty awesome. Still held out hope for her in some way shape or for at that moment, but as soon as i saw Jon’s shadow in the arch way -  i figured it wouldn’t end well. (drogon covered in snow). 

Dany takes one more crack at the old we could be lovers Jon - and he’s like dude really, we’re still in episode 73 going to try to make the incest angle work? But he takes that opening and he stabs Dany while they embrace. Bold move. 

Dany’s story has three betrayals. Once for love, once for blood, and once for gold. I think last night night Jon’s actions were the betrayal of blood or love. Could be either.

Why didn’t Drogon burn Jon? (Some are saying it’s cuz he “Can’t be burned like Dany” — i feel like they would’ve shown that at some point if that were the case.

Drogon melts the iron thorne to nothingness. Very symbolic maneuver for a Dragon. 

The 3 best spinoff ideas i’ve heard… Arya’s adventures “West of Westeros”, Tormund and Jon in a “buddy cop type show”. I think if Tormund were the main character and Jon was around every few episodes… that’d be ideal.

The Arya spinoff show would be amazing. Arya comparisons to Columbus — let’s not do that to Arya. 

Edmure Tully with the weirdest flex of ALL-TIME - at the council meeting trying to make the case for his “kingship”. Bro you’ve been gone since season 6 and were a prisoner of the Frey’s for 3 seasons before that… HAVE A SEAT. You might want to sit the next couple of plays out, Champ.

What happened in Las Vegas? To all the money gambled. 

#1) the iron throne is melted down to nothing so nobody sits upon it. #2) Dany had it before Jon killed her 3) Bran is the King of the 6 kingdoms and 4) which means Sansa is a queen in her own right? 

Sam: Let’s have a democracy? Brings out the LOLZ from the nobles. 

Tyrion essentially makes Bran “the Broken” a King. Bran’s like yeah i knew it! Bran the Broken - not a great nickname for a king. 

Also, how about the progressive north finally coming around to a female ruler full-time — nice work Sansa 

Bran giving the North “independence” — that was nice, but don’t we think that Yara and the Prince of Dorne are going to declare their own independence within like 48 hours of this “Great council meeting”? Both Kingdoms love declaring independence, they have for over a century. 

I like Jon beyond the wall - because the Wall doesn’t need a Watch with a giant hole in it, the wildlings are pretty cool with the northerners and the Night King is Dead.

 More importantly, the wall is no longer part of the seven kingdoms, the wall is part of the North - So, technically isn’t is sansa’s decision to send Jon to the wall.

Also - Grey Worm got played — he let them elect Bran King and then Bran was like you can’t kill Jon. 

Bronn gets Highgarden - Seems like there have been an unusually high number of warden’s of the south. good luck to Bronn.

Small Council - Bronn (Master of Coin), Brienne of Tarth (King’s Guard), Sam (Maester), Tyrion (Hand), Davos (Master of Ships). Is Bran going to “warg into Drogon” - he mentions that he’ll try to find them. 

Tormund lives, Jon is reunited with Ghost, the Unsullied ship off for Naath. 

Unanswered question - was Tyrion a Targaryen?  Can Sam still be with Gilly if he’s a Maester? What’s up with Daario Naharis in Mereen?

Last one - what happened with Meera Reed. Bran’s the king, she lugged him to safety time and time again. Lost her brother, and he sent her packing.  

Would Cersei Winning or the Night King winning have been more satisfying than this ending? 

The Starks were down 3-0 in the series at one point. Ned died, Catelyn and Robb died. Sansa went through hell. Bran was stuck in a tree and Hodor saved him. Rickon never had a shot. The dire wolves were all dropping like flies. Jon got stabbed by his own men at Castle Black, Arya went blind and was being hunted by an assassin. Yet. at the end of the day, when the winds of winter blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives. 

And now it’s spring in the realm and they’re going back on their separate ways. Jon gets to be free. Sansa is a queen. Bran is the King and Arya is going to the edge of the world on adventures. The Starks were the first “good guys” of this series. And they for the most part won. People should be happy for them. 

Wine, Wall & Dragons - Season 8, episode 5 Podcast

Wine, Wall & Dragons Season 8 Episode 5 - the penultimate episode of the entire series 

Have a feeling this episode might be an epic of GOT 

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United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Spain, Egypt, Philippines and finally Iran.  

Varys is writing a note to send via Raven about Jon’s true identity. A little girl appears to be working with Varys on poisoning Dany’s food. Varys has made “his choice”.

Jon Snow returns - he and Varys are chatting on the beach. Varys wants “the right ruler on the iron throne”. Every time a Targaryen is born the world holds its breath. 

Jon says, “she is my queen” 

Tyrion tries to see Dany in the Dragonstone “Map Room”. Dany knows exactly how Varys found out. They’ve got Dany looking “Strung out”. She’s fixated on getting the “Win” at all costs. 

Greyworm and the unsullied come and get Varys. He knows he’s in trouble. Leave’s his rings behind. 

Tyrion “tells on himself” to Varys. Varys says “he hopes he’s wrong. Good bye old friend.” Takes it like a pro. 

Drogon pops in out of nowhere and burns Varys to a crisp. 

Dany, sitting by the fire - she gives Greyworm Missende’s necklace. He throws it in the fire. Jon Snow comes by for a chat.

Jon says, “i don’t want it”. “Far more people in Westeros love you than love me.” 

Jon and Dany with another love scene gone awry. 

Tyrion is trying to “reason with Dany”… she’s playing for blood. Tyrion begs her to call of the attack if they ring the bells. She never verbally agrees with that request. 

Dany tells Tyrion that she’s captured Jamie. “Next time you fail me, will be the last time you fail me.”

Meanwhile at King’s Landing, Cersei is opening the gates for all kinds of “Small-folk” to use them as a deterrent for a siege. Probably not a good look for those folks. 

Dany’s army has gotten bigger again. Davos is in the house. 

Tyrion asks Davos for a Favor. 

Hound and Arya arrive to the party. 

Tyrion wants to be alone with Jamie. Tyrion is going to release Jamie. Jamie’s back to being a heel. Tyrion has an escape plan for them. Tyrion is a dumb dude. He’s trying to do the right thing, but he’s aligned with the wrong people to do it.

Ominous Cello Music - and there’s Euron Greyjoy.

Arya and the hound rolling right into the City - he’s wearing a hood, she’s not. Jamie rolls into the city. 

Golden Company (Sans Elephant) are ready. 

Cersei looks out onto the City — she’s feeling pretty Glib it seems. 

Jamie Gets shut out of the City — Arya and Hound are the last two into the walls. 

The wind picks up. Euron looks at the sky, Drogo is in Free Fall — Navy shoots and missed and Dany is Blowing up ships left and right with Drogon. 

The Gates of the city explode - Drogon goes nuclear on the Golden Company. Elephant wouldn’t have mattered. 

I kind of love it! 

Tyrion walking amidst the bodies outside the walls. Kyburn tries to tell Cersie it’s over. She’s in full delusion mode. 

Jon is in a standoff with the Lannister Men. Lannister’s Tap out 

Slow Motion - Dany coming straight for the Read Keep

Bells Ringing but she’s come too far — i agree with Dany’s decision to come for Cersei — but burning the people in the streets seems a bit much. And Grey Worm Snaps and the the fighting resumes. Bloodshed upon bloodshed. 

Once you defeat the Night King. Humans really aren’t a match any longer. 

Cersei realizes she is no longer the coldest killer in the 7 kingdoms. 

Full Heel turn — but i still feel like Dany is an antihero versus a villain. 

Jon is horrified. He has to kill one of his own guys. 

Jamie and Euron  have a standoff. Of course Euron comes ashore at the exact spot Jamie’s at. 

Jamie gets stabbed with his own sword? 

Cersei keeps saying the Red Keep is safe place. Has she seen Drogon? 

Kyburn takes Cersei to Maegor’s Holdfast. 

Jamie gets stabbed again. But drives a Sword all the way through Euron… he says “another King for you, but I got you.” “I’m the man who killed Jamie Lannister”. 

Quite the showman 

Hound and Arya - He saves her from herself perhaps? “Sandor, thank you”

Here we go! Clegane Bowl. “Hello Big Brother” 

The Mountain Smashes Kyburn like a bug!”

Cersei leaves, Hound v Mountain

Jamie shows up for Cersei — it’s pretty pathetic that they give these two “a hero’s embrace”.

Hound puts sword all the way through the mountain… he’s not quite phased. Pulls sword back out. 

Arya gets trampled upon. Hound is in trouble vs. mountain. Both fighting for the lives. 

Cool how they show Arya and Hound taking similar “bumps” in their respective battles. 

Hound stabs mountain like 12 times.

Mountain does for the eye ball smash. 

Hound puts knife in mountains head.. He pulls it out.

Hound flips and charges him, they both fall out of a tower and into a raging inferno

Arya is alive and covered in ash and blood. Probably in concussion protocol. She avoids a tower closing in on her. Ends up with a bunch of scared civilians including the lady who saved her. She’s gonna lead an escape of the city.

The Dothraki are having a field day in the city. 

Jamie and Cersei are in the Basement in the hold fast with all of the Dragon Skulls. Jamie’s way out is sealed shut. 

Cersei wants her baby to live, and doesn’t want to die. She had like a million chances for it to not come to this. 

Jamie “Nothing else matters, only us.” Jamie and Cersei get buried under the entire castle. 

Arya somehow still alive - Looks like she’s in the will Smith movie where he’s the only person left in NYC. 

Arya finds a lone horse - that’s fortuitous. Is this horse real? Or is she dead? She rides out of dodge. 

Fade to Black - hell of an episode. Jamie, Cersei, Varys, all dead. Mountain, Hound, Euron, Kyburn, all dead. 

Wine, Wall & Dragons - Season 8, episode 4 podcast

Wine, Wall & Dragons Season 8 Episode 4

Places listening Kenya, Egypt, Kuwait, UK, Canada, Saudi Arabia, Spain and Italy 

Boston Slam question for Dan: Would you relish the opportunity for the 76ers to be the ones to beat the Celtics, to snuff out the bid for a Boston Slam, or are you content to have the Milwaukee Bucks finish the the job?

Pre show question: How do they follow up the death of the Night King with their fourth episode?

Opening Scene - Jorah’s dead body - Dany kisses him on the forehead - Sansa is grieving over Theon’s body — he’s been freshly shaved… interesting flex by the show on that one.

Sansa gives Theon a stark pendant to be burned with on the funeral pyres. 

There are like 100 pyres stacked full of the dead. 

GHOST IS BACK, again! Obviously. Jon Snow speech “they were the shields that guarded the lives of men, and we will never see their like again”.

The stench of all those bodies is going to be smelled all the way to King’s Landing 

A large post funeral feast in Winterfell grand hall. Gendry and the Hound a little verbal sparring. 

Dany calls Gendry out for being Robert Barrathoen’s son. She makes Gendry the “Lord of Storm’s End”. Davos’ seconds the notion. HUZZZAH!!!! To Lord Gendry. 

Are Jamie and Brienne of Tarth gonna get together? 

Davos and Tyrion talking about the Red Woman and the Lord of Light. They pay a little fan service to the Lord of Light angle fizzling with the unknown goals of the now dead Night King.

Tyrion and Bran - another fireside chart. “You shouldn’t envy me, mostly I live in the past.”

Tormund starts another round fo Toasts. Says vomiting is celebrating. Only unhappy person is Sansa, it seems.

Dany, Jon, Varys, ominous music. Tyrion laughing with Jamie. Dany feels alone AF. Heel  turn ground work being laid??? 

Tyrion calls Brienne out for being a virgin? 

Sansa and the hound have a convo. He foreshadows Clegane Bowl. 

Gendry looking everywhere for Arya — she shoots an arrow at him. And Gendry just proposed to Arya — be the lady of Storm’s End?!?!?! HMMM? 

Arya says she’s not a lady- never have been, that’s not me.

Jamie and Brienne - whoa buddy!!?!?!?! “I’ve never slept with a Knight before”.

Here’s the Dany and Jon talk - Dany says she loves Jon, is that alight. HBO leaning into this incestuous relationship - but then Jon stops, and Dany has the convo. She’s trying to blackmail him. She wants to go backwards in time to “ignorance is bliss”. 

“You are my queen, nothing will change that. They are my family, we can live together.” — “We can, i’ve just told you how”, Dany says.

Next morning - the battle plans — sounds like the odds / numbers are even.

Varys tells us that Yara Greyjoy has taken back the Iron Islands and the “new prince of Dorne” have pledged allegiance. 

Sansa and Dany are going at it — this is tough stuff. Jamie is staying at Winterfell.

Bran - ‘it’s your choice” to Jon about his true identity. Arya and Sansa now know Jon is their cousin. 
Bronn shows up with the Cross Bow. Tyrion offers him High Garden instead of Cersei’s offer of Riverrun. 

The Hound and Arya chatting - they both have unfinished business in king’s landing. They both don’t plan on coming back. 

Sansa asks Tyrion, “why her?” 

The men in the family don’t do well in the capital. 

Sansa is about to tell Tyrion about Jon’s identity. 

Tormund is going to head back to the north. And Jon gives Ghost to Tormund. This is farewell then? You never, know. You’ve got the north in you, the real north. 

Gilly is pregnant with Sam’s baby. Sam is staying at Winterfell. Sam, “you’re the best friend I ever had.”

Jon leaving Ghost behind — eek — bad sign dude.

Greyworm and Messandre 

Varys now knows the secret as well. Says if 8 people know, everyone knows. If we marry them, they could rule together. 

Vayrs worries about “her state of mind”. 

WHOA!!!! Rhagal is DEAD - Shot by scorpions on Euron’s ship. 

Dany is Pissssed- She can’t take Euron on he’s got catapults for days. 

She’s out of the fight. Tyrion jumps overboard - gets hit in the he’d with a mast. He lives, Varys lives. Grey worm lives. Messande is missing. 

Cersie is passing off Jamie’s baby as Euron’s. 

Lot of foreshadowing - and They have Messandre as a hostage. 

Varys is trying to speak reason to Dany. Dany is not in the mood for reasoning. “they should know whom to blame when the sky falls down upon them.”

Thoughts aren’t treason. 

Varys, “each of us has a choice to make.” I pray we choose wisely. 

Jamie gets the news about Euron’s victory at sea. He’s gonna make his way South. Brienne begs him to stay. Jamie makes a strange “heel turn”, saying Cersei is hateful and so is he. 

Cyburn comes out of the castle - big standoff between he and Tyrion coming up. At the gates of King’s Landing. 

Tyrion blows of Kyburn - going to appeal to Cersi directly. 

He’s really dumb - Messandre says “Dracarus” which means BURN/FIRE/AHSES in Valaryian.

Mountain cuts off her head. This is going to be a bloodbath 

Game of Thrones Season 8, Episode 2 podcast

Wine, Wall & Dragons Season 8 Episode 2

Cindy is “so nervous” 

#DragonSeason #PeepingBran 

If last week was to help get us caught up on the plot, this week was to give us one more trip down memory lane with all of the characters we love, before they become zombies.

Opening - Jamie is on Trial before Dany and the Starks 

Jamie says Cersei lied, and talks about the Golden Company 

Bran “the things we do for love” call back from 2011

Brienne of Tarth - sticks up for Jamie - vouches for him. Jon Snow backs Sansa. Dany isn’t happy on bit.

Bran is PEEPING - odd scene  

Tyrion admits that “he’s a fool” not a traitor.

Gendry is making Dragonglass Weapons to the sounds of ominous music. Arya shows up. Some odd “tension” - and Arya is asking about fighting white walkers, wha they’re like etc. - I know death, i look forward to seeing this version

Jamie and Bran at the Weirwood tree. Jamie apologizes. You won’t be able to help us in this fight if I let them murder you first. 

How do you know that there is “an afterwards”?

Tyrion walking the yard in Winterfell and talking with Jamie. Jamie and Tyrion are talking about Dany and Cersei. 

Tyrion is thinking about the reality of dying at Winterfell. 

Jamie and Brienne checking out Podrick’s sword work. 

Dany and Jorah Mormot have a meeting. (There’s been a fireplace next to Dany in each of her first two scenes). 

Dany and Sansa conversation - Families are complicated. We’re at odds with one another, why? Who manipulated whom? Someone taller line about who loved Dany.

“What about the North?” from Sansa — BOOM! this is a big issue. 

Theon shows up - at worst possible time. Sansa is pumped to have Theon back. 

Davos serving food to the folks at winterfell, and recruiting soldiers.

Little girl with facial scars - wants to fight. Gilly convinces her to “defend the crypt”. 

Dolorus Edd and Tormand show up — Jon has a great reunion. “The Big Woman still here?” 

Bran - the Night King will come for me. He wants an endless night. He wants to erase our memory.

Bran is gonna lay a trap in the Godswood. Theon is gonna guard him.

Tormand - we’re all going to die, at least we’ll die together. 

Tyrion pulls up a chair to hear about Bran’s journey 

Grey Worm and Missandre - the northern girls seems weirded out. Greyworm is looking to “retire to the beach” after this war is over. 

Sam and Jon: “You told her yet?” 

Tyrion and Jamie “I wish father were here”. 

Tormand and Brienne - spitting hot game. I killed a giant when i was 10 and climbed right into bed with his wife… Giants MILK - LOLZ x 1,000 

The Hound and Arya chatting on the wall. Berric Dondarion shows up. And Berric apologizes. I”m not spending my final hours with you two miserable old sh*ts.

Gendry makes Arya her weapon. Gendry tells her he’s Robert Barratheons’ bastard. Arya and Gendry are about to get it on. 

Back at the “fireside chart” - waiting for a little “Show me the way to go home” from Jaws. And Tyrion literally suggests a song? Podrick delivers 

Tyrion says “I think we might live”. Jamie “knights” Brienne of Tarth. 

Jorah getting scolded by his cousin Lyanna Stark. Sam gives Jorah his family’s Valaryan steel sword. 

Jon and Dany in the Crypts - awkward AF - BAD TIMING — with the Army of the Dead coming 

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It’s dragon season so #DragonSeason

How bad were people craving Game of Thrones - Dan and Dan Ruttle watched the final episode of Season 7 in a storefront on south street in Philadelphia with a drifter  who was drinking a liter of vodka.

Who flies the 3rd dragon? Jon Snow, Tyrion, Bran? Maybe Dany and Jon’s love child? 

We’ve been promised a WTF moment? Is it Cersei getting killed by Night’s King (when he drops into Kings Landing via dragon?)

Is it Jon or Dany dying while engaged in a dragon fight with Night’s King? Lots of Dragon fighting in this Fire & Blood prequel book i’m reading at the moment. 

A hope for spring is likely the last episode - I think Dany or Jon or their love child is back on Dragon Stone, or more likely smuggled away to Essos with 3 more dragon eggs. 

I think there’ll be a hint of a new generation of Dragons to win back Westeros. 

I think the Night King wins… but the Epilogue is that summer will come again, as will the "Targaryen Snow Love Child”.

Ramsey Actor, Motley Crue movie Dirt on Netflix plays Mic Mars. 

Doing research on this and it’s a bummer- top stories by month from 8/17 to 11/17: Charlottesville, hurricane harvey, hurricane Maria, Las Vegas shooter, Harvey Weinstein

Also, royal wedding, stormy Daniels, Eagles triumph, Winter Olympics. 

Endless Prince George Memes from Gary Janetti 

True Detective Season 3 Finale podcast and Game of Thrones season 8 hot takes

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The one eyed man wanted to be “killed or taken to jail” but wasn’t. 

The ending was happy for Julie - and that was the plot twist. 1) it was surprising 2) it was pretty unsatisfying- does that make us “jerks” 

Did they ever really talk about what happened to Hays’ wife, Amelia Reardon?

Julie did get a happy ending - but pretty much nobody else did. 

Season 1 characters were deliberately mentioned shown by the crime reporter.  This excites me in the sense that with these worlds connected, perhaps we’ll get a season 4 and those characters could somehow be involved again. 

Game of Thrones predictions- GRRM has two books that are unfinished, “the winds of winter” and “a hope for spring”

Based off of those alone - my prediction is a dark season in which almost all of the characters we care about are killed (likely by the Night’s King/ Army of the Dead/ White Walkers). 

I think Dany having 2 dragons and the fact that she’s likely going to have a child with her nephew Aka Jon Snow are the two biggest factors for “an eventual hope for spring”. 

I think we see a glimpse of whatever that hope is at the very end... but I think Westeros goes to the nights king north of the Neck. 

The best worst case scenario - Dany has the ability to defend dragon stone - but all of Westeros goes “zombie”. 

Nothing good will happen for the living until Cersei is dead - also burn Cersei- cuz she def shouldn’t get to come back as a white walker. 

Will Cersei and Kyburn make some deal w the  night king? 

Will Bran be a force for good or is he the Nights King?